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Remote Boiler Systems Like Hive or Nest

I am in the middle of pricing up a new boiler system and have seen lots of talk about two systems: Hive and Nest. They seem to do the same thing. I wanted to know if any qualified heating engineers could shed some light on whether they are worth it. I am not interested in them as 'gadget of the month' but if they can save me money or make life easier I will get one. While I am here if you can advise on a Vaillant Boilder or Worcester Bosch I would love your input. Thank you very to anyone who takes the time to help.

Hi , never heard of hive or nest, but advise to install Worcester boilers as they have 5 year parts and labour guarantees, i've fitted lots of vaillant but you can never get the company on the phone, Worcester answer the phone and fix if you have a problem, some company's are offering 10 year guarantees!!!! i bet these will never be honored, not worth the paper its written on.

Hi Sorry For the delay I would recommend a nest if you look on my web site there is a lot more information that you can read through www.djjonesheatingandplumbing.co.uk . with nest you will have a monthly report on your energy saving nest estimate that you should save around £ 350.00 a year. nest is a learning thermostat so it learns the way you use your heating with regards to when you turn you heating on and of it also takes in consideration the out side temperature
hope this helps any question please call number on web site
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Dave

Hlve is the most popular and is run by British gas

Hello

If you want to use hive or nest you will need a good internet connection , i have been to several recently which have not been working correctly and the problem was found to be poor WiFi and internet connection

Both your boilers are good but both have problems , why not look at an ideal vogue , its the best of both worlds it was design by someone from vaillant and Worcester and it has a ten year part and labor warranty

Thanks martin

hi both vaillant and worcester boilers are very good, 2 of the best out there. i would go for worcester only because they are better value for money. depending on the property i would go for a 28i or 34 cdi depending on the amount of hot water you use.

Hello,
I would avoid both HIVE and NEST. One is British Gas and the other is NPower. I would remain unattached to either of these organisations. There are other smart systems available without obligations to these companies.

I would not fit either a Vaillant or a W.Bosch. There are better boilers out there for less money.

The design of your home heating system is what is important. It should be made of parts that are freely available. Nothing proprietry. The boiler should have the least moving parts and a long life. Intergas is currently the best followed by the Ravenheat CSI120/150.

Both are excellent boilers but very different in their construction.

70% of combi boiler failures are either diverter valve or secondary heat exchanger. The Intergas has neither, but the Ravenheat does.

If you are not having a combi boiler then Intergas is the best in my opinion. So very simple and efficient. Ten year guarantee of the heat exchanger and five years on everything else.

You need to look at programmable roomstats such as the Salus RT500 or the Honeywell equivalent. Both a great units but vary in cost with Honeywell costing more.

Look at what you want you boiler to do. Radiators, how many bathrooms, simultaneous use of bathrooms, etc. There really is a lot to it.

Feel free to message again with more information and I will be happy to advise.

Hi

You mentioned Hive or Nest. You are correct in assuming they are the same. However they are single zone control. If you want efficiency? You would be better off with a multi zone system. A system that only calls for heat in the areas of the house that's needed. The Hive and Nest are sold on they idea that they can control your heating by a smart phone. Why would you care about turning your heating on when your on a beach 300 miles away?

I would take a look at Evohome by Honeywell. It's a multi zone system that controls you hot water also; not if you have a combi. But it also controls the temp of each radiator in every room, much like the TRV's. However these are controlled by a single controller. It is a little more expensive, but over the time. This will have a real chance of saving you money. If fitted and used correctly! Follow the link below, and you don't need to connect it to the internet.

http://www.honeywelluk.com/products/Connected-Thermostats/Wireless-Connected-Thermostats/evohome-Base-Pack-and-Mobile-Access-Kit/

Also I prefer Vaillant. However either Vaillant or Worcester are not a bad choice. But spend all the money you like, but if you fit and forget. You will be throwing good money away. Spend a few quid every year and get the boiler serviced and system checked.

Hi Paul,

I am no expert on remote control systems but as to your question about boilers. Both Valiant and Worcester have a good reputation, in fact I have a Worcester in my own home. Both are expensive boilers so you might also look at the Baxi Duo Tec which comes with a 7 year guarantee of the Baxi Platinum which comes with a 10 year guarantee.

Hi Paul,

I normally fit the Honeywell EvoHome system.
It's more expensive but it is a genuine energy saving system where you can control each room or zone individually.
The Hive or Nest systems are basically a programmable room stat that is slightly more intelligent but still only control the system as whole.

All three systems can controlled via tablet or smartphone.

Depends on your customer really and if they are looking for a genuine energy saving system or just want the latest thing with flashing lights.

I hope this helps.

Danny